OF THE REGIMENTAL ASSOCIATION
RIFLES & ROYAL GLOUCESTERSHIRE, BERKSHIRE AND WILTSHIRE REGIMENT
I would like to make All Members aware that the Regimental HQ (Salisbury) Office in The Wardrobe Regimental Museum is to close wef 16th December 2016. It will move to RHQ The Rifles (Salisbury), Peninsula Barracks, Romsey Road, Winchester SO23 8TS It will continue to support the Association from this new location.
Contact details are:
Lieutenant Colonel Tim Lerwill OBE salisbury@the-
AO Sue Nelmes aosalisbury@the-
As a result of this Move, the Annual Newsletter has been delayed. The Office will work on the 2017 Edition during January for publication in March. Branches are requested to forward their Notes to reach the Editor by NLT 27th January 2017. (August 2017 and still awaited)
A once only opportunity to obtain a piece of our Glosters/ RGBW silverware or other artefacts of interest. This is your opportunity to bid now before any unsold items go on offer to the general public in three months time. Once it’s gone it’s gone!
1. Introduction. As many will already know RGBW chattels are the subject of an ongoing disposals exercise by the Trustees of the RGBW Regimental Trust. An early priority was identifying objects for transfer to the ownership of The Rifles. Several objects that inspired members of the RGBW, and those from its forming regiments, now fulfil a similar role within The Rifles. Meanwhile other objects have been claimed for display by our Museums and have been or are now being accessioned. Concurrently Salisbury conducted a sale of RGBW chattels that, in the main, were previously the property of a DERR Trust. Proceeds from the sale benefitted RGBW Regimental Charities.
2. Background. This next step consolidates objects that have been stored at Gloucester and which may now be surplus to requirements. Those objects appear in this catalogue. The purpose of this catalogue is to bring this latest disposal to the attention of The Rifles, our Museums and RGBW Association members. The process has been primarily designed to ensure that those who served in The Gloucestershire Regiment and The Royal Gloucestershire, Berkshire and Wiltshire Regiment have an opportunity to acquire surplus items, whilst meeting the requirement of the Charity Commissioners that reasonable value is obtained in any process of disposal. Those who served in The Wiltshire Regiment and The Duke of Edinburgh’s Royal Regiment will wish to note that some regimental items of cutlery, crockery and a few small salvers, from the 62nd of Foot, are also included.
3. Disposal. The Rifles Office Taunton, with the aid of volunteers, is managing this disposal on behalf of the RGBW Regimental Trust. Objects have been valued by independent professional auctioneers. This
disposal of RGBW Regimental Charities’ artefacts is not an auction. A catalogue listing all items and their values has been produced. The objectives of the catalogue are:
• Objective One. The catalogue forms a record and base document for managing disposals as well as explaining the rules of disposal.
• Objective Two. The catalogue brings potential disposals to the attention of The Rifles, The Gloucestershire Regiment Museum Trust (GRMT) and The Rifles Wardrobe Museum Trust (RWMT) in addition to RGBW Association members. Following publication of the catalogue, and for up to 90 days,
The Rifles, GRMT, RWMT and RGBW Association members may bid for objects or, in the case of charitable trusts, request the potential transfer of an object/sbetween Trusts.
Discretion on the release of further objects to The Rifles or the two Museums will rest with the Trustees ofthe RGBW Regimental Trust. They will need to be satisfied that the item is needed for display.
• Objective Three. The catalogue may help to bring the disposals process to the attention of donors or, where known, their immediate descendants. If requested, Trustees of the RGBW Regimental Trust will generally be willing to return anobject to a donor, or immediate successor.
• Objective Four. The catalogue brings the disposal process to the attention of members of the RGBW Regimental Association,
offering them the opportunity to purchase an object for a fixed price. Bids to purchase can only be made onthe prescribed bidding form. Transfers and sales to individuals will not be confirmed before the closure of bidding for all on Monday 25th September 2017.
This three month period will allow potential bidders to hear about the disposals process, consider options having accessed the catalogue, and submit a bidding form or forms.
• Objective Five. Much time has been taken in compiling a comprehensive catalogue and so minimise any requirement to travel and view objects.
4. Those objects that are surplus to requirements, following disposal, and for which no successful bid has been achieved will be put up for public auction.
a. Bidding. Members should bid, in writing, offering to purchase an object at the list price. Bids will only be accepted on the prescribed forms (see Enclosures 1-
Any modification or amendment to a bidding form may lead to the bid being disqualified. This is not an auction. Bids must be received by post or e-
b. Viewing. The photographs and descriptions within the catalogue should minimise any requirement for personal viewing.
c. Bidding Process. Individual members may only bid for a maximum of five objects. There can be no assurance or guarantee that any one individual will be successful with any one of up to five bids. If more than one bid is received for an object, any extenuating reason (see bidding form) may be considered by the Bidding Committee who will oversee the process. Thereafter, and as appropriate, all bids for that object go ‘in to a hat’ where the successful bid will be drawn, supervised by an Independent Person.
In addition, where there is more than one bid for an object a second and third bid will be drawn as ‘reserves’ in case the first named fails to honour their bid.
d. Reserve Bids. Any Association member who wishes to place more than five bids, may further submit up to five Reserve Bids. Reserve Bids will only be considered by the Bidding Committee if the item for which a Reserve Bid has been received has not already been allocated. Reserve Bids must be submitted on the correct bidding form.
e.Consideration of Bids. All bids will be considered, by the Bidding Committee, in October 2017.
f. Communication Regarding Bids. Successful applicants will be informed by telephone or e-
g. Public Auction. Any item for which no successful bid has been achieved, nor has been approved for transfer between Trusts, will be put up for public auction.
h. Collection of Objects. Items will only be posted in exceptional circumstances and at full cost to the purchaser. Where it is difficult for an individual to collect an item personally from either the Rifles Taunton Office or the Soldiers of Gloucestershire Museum, we would ask that a friend does so to minimise the workload. All items must be collected within 30 days of notification. Thereafter an object will be offered to the second named bidder. If the second named bidder fails to honour their bid within a further 30 days, the Trust reserves the right to place the object at public auction.
i. Allocation of Priorities. Where more than one bid is received for an item officers will generally have priority for items of Officers’ Mess property. The same will apply to WOs & SNCOs and Corporals for property from respective Messes. However, this general approach does not stop individuals from bidding across the catalogue up to a maximum of five items. Give some thought to the completion of your bidding form to assist the Bidding Committee with the award of bids.
j. Payment. Payment should be made by cash, electronic transfer or cheque (The Rifles Office Taunton) prior to collection. Appropriate details will be passed to successful bidders. Subsequently the consolidated receipt will be transferred to The RGBW Regimental Charity.
WARNING: all items, with only a tiny number of exceptions, have been ‘well used’ and their condition reflects this. Purchasers should expect silver to be dented and/or scratched, pictures to need attention, including reframing, and books to be very worn. The auctioneers valuations do reflect condition.
All enquiries relating to the sale should be addressed to:
The Rifles County Office
Tel: 01823 333434
CASSEL MEMORIAL GLOUCESTERSHIRE REGIMENT (Posted 29 July 2016)
The memorial has been re-
At Cassel in 1991 a memorial plaque was unveiled in the town square by HRH Duke of Gloucester and Major General Robin Grist who at that time was Colonel of the Regiment.
The plaque is dedicated in Proud Memory of Brigadier NF Somerset CBE DSO MC and the 228 officers and men of the 2nd & 5th Battalion of the Gloucestershire Regiment, who fought and died from Waterloo to Cassel and Ledringhem covering the evacuation of the British and French Forces at Dunkirk, 11-
Glosters Veteran, 88 year old Clifford Rowland and his wife Irene are members of the Somerset Branch of the Regimental Association and are also prominent members of the British Army Association (BAA). Each year on behalf of the BAA Irene organises an annual Pilgrimage to the war cemeteries. Included in the itinerary is a visit to Cassel and the Glosters memorial where a short ceremony is held and wreaths laid.
Whilst the original location of the memorial in 1991 was ideal, unfortunately over the years there has been a marked deterioration. Run off from the park walkway above the memorial has badly soiled the plaque so much so that before any ceremony could take place Cliff & Irene had to clean up the area. This was accomplished thanks to the kind assistance of a local café proprietor who loaned them buckets and brooms!
The need to provide additional parking in Cassel has meant the local authority has now officially designated the area in front of the memorial as a car park. Cars are now parked within twelve inches of the memorial completely obstructing it from view and making it difficult for visitors to find. The annual ceremony now out of the question, those attending found that the Standards were unable to be dipped and the wreath layers had to squeeze between the parked cars to gain access.
Not to be phased by the problem Cliff and Irene and those attending felt that it was time to bring their concerns to the good people of Cassel and so Cliff sought an audience with the Town Mayor in order to put forward a suggestion to re-
Photo Cliff Rowland at Cassel
Well done Cliff and Irene.
We are extremely grateful to the Mayor and good people of Cassel in making this re-
Somerset Branch Notes January 2017 (as submitted for inclusion in the Association Newsletter)
Our annual Imjin Commemorative Lunch was again a great success, 114 guests from various Branches of the association, and friends from the Marines, Paras and Sappers made up the number. The venue was the Hyde Suite at Taunton Rugby Club where we are always made most welcome. Our ladies and our Social Secretary Mike Kemish did an excellent job with the raffle which enabled us to send a cheque for £400 to the Army Benevolent Fund, now call the Soldiers Charity.
Replica of Col. Carne's Cross to take pride of place in a new South Korean museum
Photo Sam Mercer MBE hold the original Cross.
Once again the people of South Korea will show their gratitude to the Glosters for the contribution made by the regiment in the history of their country when they open a new museum in the City of Busan dedicating the Korean War.
To be given pride of place in the new museum will be a replica of the stone Celtic Cross carved by Lieutenant Colonel Carne VC whilst held as a prisoner for nineteen months in solitary confinement. The Cross was carved using his only tools, two rusty nails and an improvised hammer. The original cross can be seen in Gloucester Cathedral.
Dignitaries and surviving Gloucestershire Regiment veterans of the Battle of Imjin will visit Busan in South Korea, for the opening of the museum.
This year is the 65th anniversary of the battle, which is expected to be the last milestone anniversary attended by the few surviving veterans.
September 2015. A small party from the Branch travelled to the National Memorial Arboretum at Alrewas, Staffordshire. We were guests of the Taunton Branch of the Royal Engineers Association.